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Have you ever seen a silver fawn with a dark/silver head ?
 
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 9:15 am   Post subject:  Have you ever seen a silver fawn with a dark/silver head ? Back to top 

I know this may sound like a dumb question but I just want to know if anyone has seen a dog that looks like my Tango ? I have searched and cant find one. Shes a silver fawn, with an all dark and silver head. her dark covers back to her neck and she has silver throughout. I wonder if she will look that way forever ? I want to know whay i dont see many others like her...


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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 11:18 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

She may or may not stay that way. She has too much pigment. Her mask should cover only her ears and from the nose up to right above her eyes.

I'd take too much pigment over a lack of pigment anyday!

She doesn't look like a silver fawn to me. Might be the lighting??

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 12:59 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

It looks more like she has a dark head, but not a black mask Wink She is a lighter fawn, but silver fawn is VERY white, lighter than her (from what I can tell in the pics)

She is a cutie pie Very Happy

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 2:06 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

I don't know much about silver fawns! But like Moriah said to me is looks like lots of pigment. When Zeus was younger he had a darker mask and as he got older it started to get lighter and not so much around his eyes. So maybe she'll get lighter too? Hard to say!

Hmmm...I wonder if my Zeus is a silver fawn?

I looked up silver fawn on google and it came up with this:

http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=39009

Zeus is like a yellowish colour.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 2:14 pm   Post subject:  Re: Have you ever seen a silver fawn with a dark/silver head ? Back to top 

I think she just has quite a bit of pigment.A cutie for sure.Big Gentle Bens coloring(when he isnt playing in water and dirt) is more what I consider silver fawn.I am surrounded by redheads,though,lol.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 3:28 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

Her mother was very "silver", and i was hoping she would be too, and in the sun she shines almost white in some places but i cant pick it up good with a flash.. I didnt know why she has a realy diferent color then the breed standard. Is this just a fluke ? Not that it matters... shes the calmest, sweetest pup ive ever seen, and Ive never seen a dog take to training as fast either. She does everything i ask with ease.. unlike her male counter-part.. we wouldnt trade her for the world. I just wondered why shes.... "special" LOL.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 6:52 pm   Post subject:  Re: Have you ever seen a silver fawn with a dark/silver head Back to top 

A darker head is sorta kinda common, i mean there is not a ton of them, but there is a lot.
My harly is a silver Mastiff, just look at his face LOL smiley
He has a dark head, along with chest, look at his pic you can tell.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 17, 2008 8:02 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

I don't know. I have seen lighter colored fawns called silver but I am not sure I could actually pick out the color unless I had several shades in front of me. And pics make it hard to tell.
I prefer a mask more like your boys, darker and more contained to the face area
But I do think she is a lovely little girl and I bet she changes some as she grows
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 18, 2008 6:13 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

http://www.royalkmastiffs.com/cole.htm

take a look at this boy...

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 18, 2008 9:21 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

My first mastiff was a silver fawn. She was VERY light. Here's a pic of her. This was taken Christmas 5 years ago. See how you can't see where the teddy bear ends and she starts. She was more like a dark eggshell color. She had a fawnish colored tail though. But she had a serious LACK of pigment.



I didn't have a digital camera 5 years ago so this is a regular pic that I scanned into the computer. Sorry about the quality.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 18, 2008 12:56 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

Did a search on this other board I am on and it came up with this thread, hope you can read it!

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/mastiffmessageboard/vpost?id=1372248&highlight=silver+fawn&trail=25

Now I know that Zeus is definitely a silver fawn...LOL, he is white and yellowish. He doesn't have much pigment other then his mask.

If you could post a picture of your girl from the side, you can't really tell from the front. But she does look lighter then your boy so she might possibly!

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon May 19, 2008 8:04 am   Post subject:  Re: Have you ever seen a silver fawn with a dark/silver head ? Back to top 

LOL, i have a day off for the first time in a long time.. so i have time to take pics in the "sun" and we have had rain for 3 days strait.. oh well, heres 2 pics i took in my kitchen 5 min ago,and one i took a couple weeks ago on the couch.. its still not easy to tell, but you can see a definate diference between the two pups, she is much lighter then he is. her mom got lighter as she matured so she may as well. On another note, I have made the decision to get her spayed this month. it was not an easy choice for us.. every one that loves dogs has the desire to breed i think at some point, but.. I honestly dont think my wife or my children could handle losing her as a result. her mother died 12 days after birth due to mastitiss, I also have started thinking that if we were to be involved in a breeding one day we would like to produce the best dogs possible to further the future of mastiffs positively.. I have been thinking that down the line some day we will open our home to a champion bloodline pup. and start there. We would like to try showing one day and i cant do that now. For now we have two wonderfull pups that make our lives better... what more can we ask for ? why mess with that. Besides, she is so sweet and loving, i dont want to risk her for anything. Certainly not for selfish reasons.. I think i would be being selfish if i bred them, just so we can experience having puppies.. It doesnt help the future of mastiffs to produce more unreg. dogs. and un reg. dogs dont always go to the best ppl because $ 1000. dollars is alot easier to come up with then $ 2500. to $3000. It would kill me to have one of her pups go to a bad home. I know it seems prety obvious... but the kids and i were excited about breeding, but i just dont feel its the right thing to do.. anyway, heres the pics..


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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon May 19, 2008 8:19 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Wow.... I am standing up clapping my hands at your post. THANK YOU for making a decision that is more difficult --- but the "RIGHT" thing to do. Good for you!!!! It shows your love of the breed that you want to only breed if you can do it "right" and not just b/c it seems like a fun thing or something.

You are correct.... those two precious puppies will fill your home with Mastiff love..... I wouldn't want to risk losing Tango either.

Thank you for making that decision. I wish you luck in researching and learning more and more about what it takes to breed Mastiffs correctly.

I am terrible at discerning the colors.... I can figure out "fawn and brindle and apricot" ...but beyond that I get all confused. ha!

I think Texas (texasdog) is a silver fawn.... if I am remebering correctly.

The colors and patterns are always so interesting to see in everyone's pups ...and it's always fun to watch them grow and develop and see how they change.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon May 19, 2008 8:40 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I think you made a good choice Smile
How old is your girl? Talk to your vet about anthestia and calcium coated stitches (both can cause issues.. be sure they are not using ACE to sedate and some dogs have trouble with the calcium coating on some sutures)
Enjoy those 2 gorgeous babies Smile
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon May 19, 2008 8:43 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I am also VERY happy that you have chosen to make the best possible decision for your pups and for the breed as a whole. That really says a lot Very Happy

Your babies are just adorable with your daughter!

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